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Understanding 9/11Grateful Dead Live at Market Square Arena on 1981-12-05
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- Publication date
- 1981-12-05 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Live Concert, audience, Charlie Miller
- Collection
- GratefulDead
- Band/Artist
- Grateful Dead
- Resource
- DeadLists Project
- Item Size
- 1.4G
Set 1
Alabama Getaway >
The Promised Land
Friend Of The Devil >
CC Rider
Cumberland Blues >
El Paso
Ramble On Rose
Passenger
Bird Song >
Let It Grow
Set 2
Shakedown Street >
Lost Sailor >
Saint Of Circumstance
Big Railroad Blues >
Playing In The Band >
Drums >
Space >
The Wheel >
Playing In The Band >
Stella Blue >
Sugar Magnolia
Encore
One More Saturday Night
Alabama Getaway >
The Promised Land
Friend Of The Devil >
CC Rider
Cumberland Blues >
El Paso
Ramble On Rose
Passenger
Bird Song >
Let It Grow
Set 2
Shakedown Street >
Lost Sailor >
Saint Of Circumstance
Big Railroad Blues >
Playing In The Band >
Drums >
Space >
The Wheel >
Playing In The Band >
Stella Blue >
Sugar Magnolia
Encore
One More Saturday Night
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- Addeddate
- 2008-02-07 05:46:55
- Identifier
- gd1981-12-05.aud.unknown.miller.80290.sbeok.flac16
- Lineage
- Dat (Sony R500) > Samplitude Professional v8.01 > FLAC
- Location
- Indianapolis, IN
- Run time
- 155:28.15
- Transferred by
- Charlie Miller
- Type
- sound
- Venue
- Market Square Arena
- Year
- 1981
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Reviews
(13)
Reviewer:
garage boy
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June 20, 2023
Subject: Amazing show..Small Crowd
Subject: Amazing show..Small Crowd
I was at this show. 1st time. Got some Golden Dancing Bears from a tour head and dropped then and there. Had a few beers and shots of bourbon. Fueling
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up for the show. I was hanging out with a buddy, and we found an open door and entered a couple hours before the doors were set to open. Got a really good view of all the gear . . shiny chrome elaborate drums, stage, lights rig, and speakers EVERYWHERE!! . Really impressive stuff. Walked around a bit until someone weilding a basball bat caught up with us and asked us what we were doing there. I simply responded by saying "Just checking it all out, this is amazing!". He saw our third eyes opening, and kindly showed us the door . . we were really tripping now. We came back in when doors opened, and were well on our way.
As soon as they opened with Alabama Getaway, I felt like I was home. It was really something I will never forget. I had been to a LOT of concerts at this point in my life, but I was humbled by this experience with the first few notes. It was truly an experience beyond words.
Market Square Arena had a domed concrete roof. I went to a LOT of shows there, and the sound was always amazing, The Dead took that to a whole new level. Unbelieveably loud, clean, and, well . . just exactly perfect.
I am surprised that nobody seems to mention that MSA had an 18,000 capacity, and there were only 4000 people at this show. They had the entire upper sections closed off with a giant heavy sound curtain. It was awesome, easy to get everywhere, front row, middle, lower arena seats, total freedome to roam.
I recall checking out the soundboard area. Healy had 9 black Nakamichi tape decks plugged into the SBD. Not sure of the model, but they were black with red LED lights.
Other than the show being unbelievably outstanding, the freedom to roam was a Deadhead's dream. Full access to every part of the arena. Small crowd, wide open areas, access to everything, front row, stage left, right, middle, front, back, floor, lower arena seats, total freedom.
The Bears were kicking in delightfully, and one of the strongest moments that imprinted on my brain was during Let It Grow, when Jerry, Bob and Phil got real close to each other, and jammed it out together. They worked off of each other and just tore it up! I saw a rotating green pyramid above the three of them, and it was transformative. I will never forgot how they they got close together and took it to a whole new level. I remember it well . . listen and you will hear it.
On the bus from note one. 4000 people, and they brought it for us, I mean they tore it up from front to back. . . it was kind of like an exclusive party in a fantastic room. I am really happy that these audience masters finally showed up after all these years . . and I wonder what happened to those 9 SBD masters. . .? You guys who brought in taping gear . . what took you so long? LOL . . You just gotta poke around . .
Rating? . . A million stars. If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.
I sure miss those days.
As soon as they opened with Alabama Getaway, I felt like I was home. It was really something I will never forget. I had been to a LOT of concerts at this point in my life, but I was humbled by this experience with the first few notes. It was truly an experience beyond words.
Market Square Arena had a domed concrete roof. I went to a LOT of shows there, and the sound was always amazing, The Dead took that to a whole new level. Unbelieveably loud, clean, and, well . . just exactly perfect.
I am surprised that nobody seems to mention that MSA had an 18,000 capacity, and there were only 4000 people at this show. They had the entire upper sections closed off with a giant heavy sound curtain. It was awesome, easy to get everywhere, front row, middle, lower arena seats, total freedome to roam.
I recall checking out the soundboard area. Healy had 9 black Nakamichi tape decks plugged into the SBD. Not sure of the model, but they were black with red LED lights.
Other than the show being unbelievably outstanding, the freedom to roam was a Deadhead's dream. Full access to every part of the arena. Small crowd, wide open areas, access to everything, front row, stage left, right, middle, front, back, floor, lower arena seats, total freedom.
The Bears were kicking in delightfully, and one of the strongest moments that imprinted on my brain was during Let It Grow, when Jerry, Bob and Phil got real close to each other, and jammed it out together. They worked off of each other and just tore it up! I saw a rotating green pyramid above the three of them, and it was transformative. I will never forgot how they they got close together and took it to a whole new level. I remember it well . . listen and you will hear it.
On the bus from note one. 4000 people, and they brought it for us, I mean they tore it up from front to back. . . it was kind of like an exclusive party in a fantastic room. I am really happy that these audience masters finally showed up after all these years . . and I wonder what happened to those 9 SBD masters. . .? You guys who brought in taping gear . . what took you so long? LOL . . You just gotta poke around . .
Rating? . . A million stars. If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will.
I sure miss those days.
Reviewer:
lilrichwhiteboy
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January 28, 2017 (edited)
Subject: OH MY GAWD! A Sweet Spot FOB!
Subject: OH MY GAWD! A Sweet Spot FOB!
That was my initial, shockingly surprised thought when the first few notes of Alabama were plucked by Jerry on the other Fishman transfer I just reviewed.
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But after listening to it for a while, I came to realize it was riddled with technical problems and close in, hand-held annoyances from the crowd. But my golly, what a beautiful position on the floor nonetheless. OK, so I'd have to live with imperfection on what can be only reasonably expected with a stealth hand or hat recording and a few bumps and bruises from an unknown taper not having demaged his D5 before the concert.
Then, to my utter astonishment, I stream this capture uploaded by the same Matthew Vernon? Well, says I, this MUST be the same recording, only transferred by Charlie? But, to my utter, utter astonishment, this seems to be a different recording with no bozo asking the stupid question "Are you recording?" during Bird Song? WTF is going on here??? TWO close-in FOBs!?! And they are almost identical placement. But this one has no glitches and the crowd is just a pinch more distant - like the taper had his mics on a cane? It's a wonderful, wonderful recording of the hottest show I ever saw !!!
My jaw was on the floor 3/4 of the night, and I'm catching flies again having realized I have just been gifted one of the very few Holy Grails I have been hoping and praying for since walking out of the Pacer Arena thirty-six years ago - and that's a long time to hope and pray.
Hearing Bird Song > Let It Grow again as when I was standing DFC twenty rows up on the floor has brought tears to my eyes. I can hardly believe I'm hearing this again as clean and crisp as I remember it.
All I can say is - thank you Vernon and thank you Charlie for a wonderful Ground Hog's Day present.
Then, to my utter astonishment, I stream this capture uploaded by the same Matthew Vernon? Well, says I, this MUST be the same recording, only transferred by Charlie? But, to my utter, utter astonishment, this seems to be a different recording with no bozo asking the stupid question "Are you recording?" during Bird Song? WTF is going on here??? TWO close-in FOBs!?! And they are almost identical placement. But this one has no glitches and the crowd is just a pinch more distant - like the taper had his mics on a cane? It's a wonderful, wonderful recording of the hottest show I ever saw !!!
My jaw was on the floor 3/4 of the night, and I'm catching flies again having realized I have just been gifted one of the very few Holy Grails I have been hoping and praying for since walking out of the Pacer Arena thirty-six years ago - and that's a long time to hope and pray.
Hearing Bird Song > Let It Grow again as when I was standing DFC twenty rows up on the floor has brought tears to my eyes. I can hardly believe I'm hearing this again as clean and crisp as I remember it.
All I can say is - thank you Vernon and thank you Charlie for a wonderful Ground Hog's Day present.
Reviewer:
Dannydread
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October 15, 2016
Subject: Thanks Archive
Subject: Thanks Archive
Another great sounding AUD to add to my collection.Stellar bird song,shakedown ,playin wheel sandwich..and more!
Reviewer:
kalividya
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September 12, 2013
Subject: First row FFFUN!!!!
Subject: First row FFFUN!!!!
This was an epic night!!! I sneeked my butt in early somehow, and it was general admission with seats on the floor, so i saved half the front row for my
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posse. Damn...what a show to be front and center for. There were a few gems on this tour going into cold december, but this one was four gun blazing smoking hot!!!....This one definitely burned some great dead memory tracks in deep this night.....recording...good enough...
Reviewer:
chris phillips
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May 5, 2013 (edited)
Subject: carpool
Subject: carpool
Excellent first set at this late date, particularly CC Rider, Let It Grow, Shakedown, Lost Sailor and The Wheel.
I drove overnight from Boulder, Jerry ... ripped. I also drove overnight from NY for St. Paul. That was dumb luck. I loved '81, but not afterwards sorry.
I drove overnight from Boulder, Jerry ... ripped. I also drove overnight from NY for St. Paul. That was dumb luck. I loved '81, but not afterwards sorry.
Reviewer:
Stellablu122
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April 22, 2012
Subject: Highly recommended
Subject: Highly recommended
Wednesday night after the final Furthur show at the Beacon we were on the 12:15am train back to Connecticut, a glow from a mighty night of music. My buddy
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and I were dicussion the shows of our past that are burned into our beings. For him this was one of them.
Sadly for me I had never listen to this one.
Don't you love when that happens?
Right out of the gate the band and especially Jerry are like a speeding locomotive and he is pushing the envelope with his solos and energy. We get a extended cranking opener. Bobby storms into Promised Land and the fireworks continue kids. We are brought back down to Earth with a sweet reading of FOTD. These early '80's versions are some of the best they would ever play IMHO.
This goes right into CC Rider and not wanting to give too much away, I think Jerry was fucking with Bob. I will say this it was a one and done with this "change."
The rest of the set is simply exceptional. They burst out of the gate again with a smokin' Cumberland with Jerry and Phil driving it along this goes right into a text book version of El Paso, that was extremely rare back in these days.
You get a joyous sing along version of Ramble On Rose and a sick version of Passenger. The band goes deep with a set ending Birdsong> Let It Grow.
The band wants to jam and they take you to the stratosphere. I like the Birdsong alot but the Let it Grow is just plain sick.
Set two opens up with the huge trifecta of Shakedown> Lost>Saint. The Shakedown is typical of the many great ones they played this year but with that extra funk and jamming vibe that make it one of the best,I would defer that 5/16/81 hold that honor, and the band shows no clues of slowing down. The Lost>Saint is emotional, intense and extremely well played.
Then we get a nice Jerry curve ball. A rip roaring Big RR Blues, the crowd just loves it and even though it is a short version it is still very good as Jerry is in full command of his power on Tiger. I would highly recommend 8/3/82 or 10/15/83 for the best post 1973 versions of this song.
You get a wonderful PITB that is deep and driven and they jam into drums.
The space is good and leads into a majectic and powerful version of the Wheel that ends up in a well played Playin' reprise. It seemed Jerry want to take one more round at the end before the final verse and that may explain his choice for Stella Blue.
This version is grand but is flawed by many vocal miscues from Jerry, this many have been the back to reality moment of the show, and you hate it when he has to struggle with material he knows so well.
Jerry does recover and his solos are on par with the rest of the set. The ending is beautiful.
The band rocks it out with a tremedous Sugar Magnolia and closes the door with a ragin' Saturday night.
Happy trails.
Sadly for me I had never listen to this one.
Don't you love when that happens?
Right out of the gate the band and especially Jerry are like a speeding locomotive and he is pushing the envelope with his solos and energy. We get a extended cranking opener. Bobby storms into Promised Land and the fireworks continue kids. We are brought back down to Earth with a sweet reading of FOTD. These early '80's versions are some of the best they would ever play IMHO.
This goes right into CC Rider and not wanting to give too much away, I think Jerry was fucking with Bob. I will say this it was a one and done with this "change."
The rest of the set is simply exceptional. They burst out of the gate again with a smokin' Cumberland with Jerry and Phil driving it along this goes right into a text book version of El Paso, that was extremely rare back in these days.
You get a joyous sing along version of Ramble On Rose and a sick version of Passenger. The band goes deep with a set ending Birdsong> Let It Grow.
The band wants to jam and they take you to the stratosphere. I like the Birdsong alot but the Let it Grow is just plain sick.
Set two opens up with the huge trifecta of Shakedown> Lost>Saint. The Shakedown is typical of the many great ones they played this year but with that extra funk and jamming vibe that make it one of the best,I would defer that 5/16/81 hold that honor, and the band shows no clues of slowing down. The Lost>Saint is emotional, intense and extremely well played.
Then we get a nice Jerry curve ball. A rip roaring Big RR Blues, the crowd just loves it and even though it is a short version it is still very good as Jerry is in full command of his power on Tiger. I would highly recommend 8/3/82 or 10/15/83 for the best post 1973 versions of this song.
You get a wonderful PITB that is deep and driven and they jam into drums.
The space is good and leads into a majectic and powerful version of the Wheel that ends up in a well played Playin' reprise. It seemed Jerry want to take one more round at the end before the final verse and that may explain his choice for Stella Blue.
This version is grand but is flawed by many vocal miscues from Jerry, this many have been the back to reality moment of the show, and you hate it when he has to struggle with material he knows so well.
Jerry does recover and his solos are on par with the rest of the set. The ending is beautiful.
The band rocks it out with a tremedous Sugar Magnolia and closes the door with a ragin' Saturday night.
Happy trails.
Reviewer:
thebone
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August 31, 2010
Subject: Start Your Engines...
Subject: Start Your Engines...
Definitely a well-played, fun show. 1st set features a unique version of CC, as well other goodies such as FOTD, Cumberland and a nice pairing of Birdsong>Let
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it Grow to close.
First half of the 2nd set also has nice array of tunes, especially the Big Railroad Blues tucked into this segment. Enjoy!!
First half of the 2nd set also has nice array of tunes, especially the Big Railroad Blues tucked into this segment. Enjoy!!
Reviewer:
vernay3
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July 20, 2010
Subject: My First Show
Subject: My First Show
This really brings back good memories for me. It was my first show, and the reason I kept going to see the dead. Great sounding Audience recording!
Reviewer:
gobodog
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December 5, 2009
Subject: Scorcher!
Subject: Scorcher!
This is a rip-roaring good show!
Reviewer:
pease
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November 10, 2009
Subject: smokin'
Subject: smokin'
this tape rocks from start to finish.I attended this show, my first experience with the dead; and afterwards all I could think was WOW- that was the most
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unbelievable concert ever. After many listenings since, I feel the same way. The boys are at the top of their game. Listen to this show! SMOKIN' !!!
Reviewer:
Frosty's Picks
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September 21, 2008
Subject: Frosty's Picks for the Hearing Impaired
Subject: Frosty's Picks for the Hearing Impaired
I have major hearing problems. It’s called tinnitus and for those of you who don’t know it is a constant ringing in your ears. Therefore, it is hard
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for me to find audience shows that are of good enough quality for me to listen to without doing further damage to my hearing (by having to turn up the volume past 5 to even tell what song is being played!). I am not saying anything about these shows except that as a person with major hearing lose, these are some of the shows that I have on my I-Pod. Of course some are better than others. However, I am not giving any of these shows a review. I can always find something good in every show…...as long as I can hear it!!!! Here is my list for today, 9/20/08:
7.6.84, 10.15.84, 6.19.91,
7.18.89, 6.21.84, 9.6.85,
10.12.84, 10.12.83, 11.1.85,
8.24.85, 7.31.82, 6.25.92,
8.5.89, 10.31.83, 6.26.92,
10.8.84, 12.5.81, 8.30.85,
11.5.85, 6.26.84, 8.3.82,
6.8.80, 4.3.84, 8.10.82,
3.14.81, 12.26.80, 4.15.83,
4.18.82, 10.31.91, 9.2.85,
10.14.83, 4.2.90, 4.30.90,
10.14.84,
Please let me know if you have any show suggestions that compare to these in quality of sound. Send suggestions to frostyspicks@live.com.
Peace,
Frosty
7.6.84, 10.15.84, 6.19.91,
7.18.89, 6.21.84, 9.6.85,
10.12.84, 10.12.83, 11.1.85,
8.24.85, 7.31.82, 6.25.92,
8.5.89, 10.31.83, 6.26.92,
10.8.84, 12.5.81, 8.30.85,
11.5.85, 6.26.84, 8.3.82,
6.8.80, 4.3.84, 8.10.82,
3.14.81, 12.26.80, 4.15.83,
4.18.82, 10.31.91, 9.2.85,
10.14.83, 4.2.90, 4.30.90,
10.14.84,
Please let me know if you have any show suggestions that compare to these in quality of sound. Send suggestions to frostyspicks@live.com.
Peace,
Frosty
Reviewer:
vadernader
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April 26, 2008
Subject: fun fun show to listen to
Subject: fun fun show to listen to
woot! good times in Naptown! Ok, was that the weirdest CC rider ever or what? Mickey and Billy messing with Bob's head, too funny!
It is really cool ... listening to the band having so much fun and so much energy. I usually can't handle audience recordings, but I think I prefer this version to the SBD.
It is really cool ... listening to the band having so much fun and so much energy. I usually can't handle audience recordings, but I think I prefer this version to the SBD.
Reviewer:
gaZeebo
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February 10, 2008
Subject: great recording
Subject: great recording
this is the best aud of the two. the show is high energy 81 dead.
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